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So with Lebron's heat getting dominated in the finals this year, does this change peoples' Mount Rushmore of basketball?
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No. James is still a great player. The best in the biz. Cant win on his own.
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Lebron isn't the best SF or wing player of all time yet, so it doesn't change anything for me. He's still the best player in the game right now. He hasn't surpassed Kobe yet as a basketball player, so its whatever.
I'll say this though, if he has to go to a 3rd team to win another championship, I don't think I can take the guy serious in such discussions.
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so your mt. rushmore is....?
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The same as it was before, sans LeBron, and sans someone else in favor of Tim Duncan if he wasn't on it before.
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[quote=" Jermzhi » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:22 pmI'll say this though, if he has to go to a 3rd team to win another championship, I don't think I can take the guy serious in such discussions.[/quote] I fully agree.
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Jordan, Magic, Bird, Russell, Robertson.
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If we're talking about a 5 position rushmore
Robertson, Jordan, Magic, Duncan, Chamberlain
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Jordan, Magic, Bird, Russell, Robertson. No Wilt? If anything he be the first one built into the stone. I would have Wilt, Jordan, Russell and Robertson.
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Jordan, Magic, Bird, Russell, Robertson. No Wilt? If anything he be the first one built into the stone. I would have Wilt, Jordan, Russell and Robertson. My Man, Best players at their position of all time PG Robertson SG Jordan SF Magic PF Duncan C Chamberlain I know people wanna put Russell in there, but dude had more help, and Wilt put up sick numbers against him one on one. And most important, all this dude used to do was fuck bitches. Mike cant even look him in the eye...lol ![Image](http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2012/history/features/02/06/season-of-giants-wilt-celebrity/jordan-wilt.jpg)
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no magic or bird? I can understand if you don't want to list both, but you gotta hve one on there to represent that era.
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MJ, Magic, and Larry seem to be a lock for most people. The fourth is difficult to come up with. Either way, it's a stupid question. What does Mount Rushmore even mean? Four best? Four biggest faces of the game? Four best ambassadors? It's beyond subjective.
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MJ, Magic, and Larry seem to be a lock for most people. The fourth is difficult to come up with. Either way, it's a stupid question. What does Mount Rushmore even mean? Four best? Four biggest faces of the game? Four best ambassadors? It's beyond subjective. That's the point. The discussion would be no fun if it was black and white. ![hammer :hammer:](./images/smilies/hammer.gif)
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anybody seen the documentary "Bird and Magic: The courtship of Rivals?" Just an awesome look at the 2 of them.
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"you want it Mike? We can do it right now" ![Image](http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2012/history/features/02/06/season-of-giants-wilt-celebrity/jordan-wilt.jpg) "...naw Wilt, I don't want it! Any of it!"
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Wilt dunking over 6'4 centers. MJ dunking on Ewing, Olajuwon, and Mutombo.
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Wilt dunking over 6'4 centers. MJ dunking on Ewing, Olajuwon, and Mutombo. Ayo listen. I love Mike. He's my #1 all time athlete. Not only is Mike dunking on Wilt the most unlikely MJ dunk of all time, but all three of those centers that you mention, and for good measure lets throw in Shaq, would have been housed by Chamberlain, housed! He housed the legendary Bill Russell, and Bill Russell averaged under 13 a game against Chamberlain while Chamberlain doubled him, don't tell me anything!
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Anis you don't believe in the legend that is Wilt, "Mr. 10,000 women fuck", The most dominate player in the history of the NBA, Mr. 100 in game?
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Only four dudes on Mount Rushmore. None of this starting five bullshit.
MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem.
Kareem is strangely underrated. Also outplayed Chamberlain regularly, who granted was 33 by the time they started playing, but still good enough that nobody but Kareem was outplaying him, including Willis Reed when he was getting Finals MVP's over Wilt, simply for being on the winning team.
My personal Mount Rushmore, the four best I got to see play, because I don't remember Kareem, and Magic/Bird were ancient.
MJ, Hakeem, Lebron, Duncan
Lebron and Duncan are better than Kobe and Shaq.
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Wilt averaged 50 and 25 for an entire season ![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif) . He was clearly the most dominating player to every play the game, but how much do we have to factor in his perceived lack of competition?
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Wilt averaged 50 and 25 for an entire season ![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif) With no championship, which is the story of Wilt's career. Stats first. Wins second. I'll take Kareem and Russell over him.
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Wilt averaged 50 and 25 for an entire season ![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif) . He was clearly the most dominating player to every play the game, but how much do we have to factor in his perceived lack of competition? considering he averaged fucking 50/25 for a whole season, yea there was a definite lack of competition.
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The lack of comp argument is bullshit. Either you accept that Wilt had nobody, and had to put those numbers up to be competitive, or you fall on the lack of comp, in which case, why was he the only statistical anomaly? Wilt was that damned good. Kareem and Wilt overlapped for a short period. In terms of averages, Wilt outshines him in virtually every category. The one thing Kareem in the end has on Wilt Is longevity. 20 fucking seasons. If Wilt lasted that long, or Kareem never went 20 to the tune that they were in a year or two total of each other, Wilt ends up with the career scoring mark.
Kareem was the better defender though, i'll give him that.
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My generation Mount Rushmore is Magic Jordan Bird Duncan Olajuwon Historically it's Wilt Jabbar Big O Jordan Magic Notable mentions Russell Shaq Lebron Kobe Thomas
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