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What do you think ?
His career has been tremendous. Especially after losing your first fight
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If it was easy to face and beat younger fresher fighters this deep into age, more fighters would be pulling it off.
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Easily.
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After we start weeding out some of the ancient guys none of us have even seen fight, he's definitely in there.
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I agree , he is longevity.
Do any of you rank RJJ above him?
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There are guys Hop is beating today that even a shot Roy could've beaten, so I'm still hesitant to reward his abnormal genetics. He was never better at any point than Roy was for like a decade. That can't be forgotten.
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There are guys Hop is beating today that even a shot Roy could've beaten doubtful. that's not to prop up Hops opposition, the last 2 are hardly worth talking about, but shot Roy is as pathetic a fighter as there is. I wouldn't pick shot Roy to beat guys like Murat, Shumenov, Cloud and Pascal.
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There are guys Hop is beating today that even a shot Roy could've beaten doubtful. that's not to prop up Hops opposition, the last 2 are hardly worth talking about, but shot Roy is as pathetic a fighter as there is. I wouldn't pick shot Roy to beat guys like Murat, Shumenov, Cloud and Pascal. The Jones contingent now and then forgets just how spent Roy is. Split decision with the 54 ranked light heavyweight in the world last year. Yall must have forgot.
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Crazy ,superman never lost a round in his prime . If so ,please enlighten me
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Crazy ,superman never lost a round in his prime . If so ,please enlighten me He lost rounds to Hopkins. Montel Griffin too. Lou Del Valle, of all people, won a round when he knocked Roy down. Roy was great, and he didn't lose many rounds, but to say he never lost a round, isn't true.
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Its not what i meant. What i was trying to say was It was so unlikely or far and in between .
Very rare.
Similar to floyd now and ali back then
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Its not what i meant. What i was trying to say was It was so unlikely or far and in between .
Very rare.
Similar to floyd now and ali back then Then say what you mean
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Fair enough.
Roy had an aura in which he was Invincible until he dropped all that weight and Tangled with tarver , It was clear in fight one he wasnt the same .
Before that one fight , he was bein regarded as top 10 ever
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Fair enough.
Roy had an aura in which he was Invincible until he dropped all that weight and Tangled with tarver , It was clear in fight one he wasnt the same .
Before that one fight , he was bein regarded as top 10 ever This is very true. Before the weight loss Roy was on his way to being almost immortal to boxing fans. From being a middleweight champ to heavyweight champ in the modern era Is unheard of.
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This is my take on it. B hop is definately top 30,but roy is higher.
This is how i see it.
Name the last modern fighter to Go from 154 to heavy and win titles .
Who thinks he loses to a cruiser before the ruiz fight ??
Name the last fighter to gain 51 pounds over a career and still be out weighed 30 pounds on fight night and win a belt ??? Ill wait. (Thats like asking floyd to go weigh in at 154 and fight hopkins At 175 and thats even to light by 8 pounds. So to make it completely fair , Throw in kovalev which is closer to age as ruiz was)
Floyd wont even fight sergio or GGG at 160 or ward at 168
Name the last guy who went undefeated for 15 yrs Who didnt duck his top 3 threats in his division .
Name me the last guy who beat 2 alltime greats in their primes With ease. B hop /toney/
Name one guy more talented
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