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Manny's offensive attack is still predicated on him throwing the straight left hand. That punch would never land on FLoyd. But, I'll tell you what, Floyd's straight right would knock Manny senseless. Manny is so wide open when he comes forward and punches. He is a counter puncher's wet dream, and Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game. You do the math.
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this fight would go the same now as it would have went 5 or ten years ago if they fought! floyd would take away manny's left hand than what? manny has been the fucking straight left bandit forever i cant remember ever seeing manny throw a short right hook or a right uppercut EVER! maybe 5 years ago he would have been able to win a couple of rds against floyd cuz he was blazing fast,roided up,and he was throwing 1000 punches back then.
but the guy i saw against rios and bradley has no shot against even this declined version of floyd. yes both men have declined,but floyd has age a lot better than manny! floyd has definitely declined.... he's not as fast or quick as he was seven years ago and his defense isnt wat it was either! but with that being said,he's a lot better off than manny at this point. lara is floyds biggest threat these days!
manny looked fucking sloppy as hell against bradley... yea he killed him,clearly won 9 or 10 rds but that minor league shit wouldnt work against floyd! floyd is stronger than bradley so pac wouldnt be as brave as he was against floyd if they fight anytime soon.he would never let floyd stop him so i think manny would try to outthink floyd like canelo did and we know that wouldnt end well!
with all that being said manny-floyd does 3 million ppvs easily and i'd still love to see it! make it happen at the end of this year or 2015... maybe since pac is broke he'll put his pride aside and take that guaranteed 40 mill that he passed up back in his prime who knows
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As usual Moe doesn't know shit about boxing. Keep it moving kid and let the real men convo about this fight.
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It would have been the same whenever. Floyd would have always kicked Manny's ass. I see a Canelo rematch more likely than a Cotto one.
To me there is nothing Canelo can do in the next year or so to justify to anyone a rematch,.
I expect him to call out Floyd after he beats Lara. And after breaking the bank as far as revenue the first fight, that's all the justification Canelo needs for a rematch
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manny's not leaving bob....so the fight's never happening
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It would have been the same whenever. Floyd would have always kicked Manny's ass. I see a Canelo rematch more likely than a Cotto one.
To me there is nothing Canelo can do in the next year or so to justify to anyone a rematch,.
I expect him to call out Floyd after he beats Lara. And after breaking the bank as far as revenue the first fight, that's all the justification Canelo needs for a rematch
Yeah, it did great financially. The 2nd wouldn;t do anywhere near it. Even die hard canelo fans know he got whitewashed that first fight, and the same thing would happen again. The casual fans who bought into the hype of the biger, younger, stronger challenger aren't going to buy it a 2nd time. in no way, shape, or form so i want to see that rematch. Would much rather see a Cotto rematch if Cotto wins the title because at leasrt that fight had some competetive moments. Canelo wasn't cometetive for a minute in that fight let alone a few rounds.
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floyd's like the michael jordan of boxing..
you reach...i teach...
manny chases too much.....that's how he got caught against jmm, and that's why he doesn't look as good against bradley....they move too much for him to stalk them.....
manny chasing floyd around the ring spells disaster for manny....that's pretty much how the fight woulda went down 5 years ago....that's how it would go down now....
you reach....i teach.....
i think everyone knows the best way to beat a guy like floyd is the constant pressure...but a fighter has to be disciplined enough to not let that pressure turn into a desperate pursuit...
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Naw...slo mo showed some landing pretty good. Bradley got rocked a few times.
This is one man getting dusted. Bradley making an immature point and mistake. But truth is this...Bradley can't hang with Pac. Floyd does this every fight What is so impressive about Floyd should be impressive with another boxer. ITs a matter of opinion of course
Floyd was Bradley onthe ropes with Canelo. Canelo couldn't do shit amazingly enough. I'd like to see Floyd counter Manny...I think he can...still, I like to see it because Pac will fight and try his damnedest to make a fight unlike Cinnamon Bun who wouldn't cross the line.
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Anyone who believes Manny is no contest for Floyd is a fool. This is a fight Manny is craving. He will give it his all in that fight. He won't go in to be whitewashed ala Canelo or suckered punched ala Ortiz. Manny will fight with fire and passion win or lose.
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That wasn't the flurry I was thinking of. A little more landed there.
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No, but he get your point completely. ITs about money. With Manny its something weird why he is still there. He doesn't have the ego to put his name up like Pacman Promotions while other people do the work. IT seems Manny just likes the machine that is around him getting him to where he is in the sport. Why change it? Why want more? Everyone around him is doing well and that is good.
I don't think he goes past those basic thoughts like most caught up running with the Joneses or worrying about what other people are getting or doing. Pretty good way to be if you ask me. However , thinking this way allows sharks to eat and sharks eat just about anything when they smell blood
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Whatever the fuck. I really want to see Manny vs Floyd, but I also hope that Floyd continues to freeze out that piece of shit Bob Arum. Only two fighters have had the kind of clout to do it to a high degree, and Oscar's fishnet wearing ass aint really around anymore, so I hope Floyd keeps on truckin that bitch!
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i just always found it funny how it took less than a month to make cotto/floyd once cotto left top rank...
3 years of failed negotiations....and the fight was made one month after leaving....
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Absofuckinglutely. This point its like asking Sho and HBO to go into business together. Its fucked....but that is the way it is....the setup is just all wrong and no innocents here.
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i just always found it funny how it took less than a month to make cotto/floyd once cotto left top rank...
3 years of failed negotiations....and the fight was made one month after leaving....
i guarantee the same would happen with manny....
You didn't just realized that did you?
We been saying it for years. But there is no reason for Bob to be left out completely. I think he should end a little for the better of the sport. But not be frozen out completely. This is a big money business. You guys always saying how it's a business with fighters making decisions on singing with other promoters or networks. So why is it different with Bob? Cause ya hate him that's why.
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we hate bob cuz he sued both oscar and floyd for going against him to make the best fights for their respective careers.....
and we hate bob because fighters like manny and cotto were stuck to him by loyalty, and missed some of the better fights of their respective primes...
bob does wonders to build the career of a fighter... but he limits the successes of his superstars by stubborn business practices....and he builds absolute shit cards to protect his prospects
as a businessman, he's a beast....but he's still the devil when it comes to robbing fans of great fights
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Here is where it is stupid. Too too too many people riding the coattails of these athletes. No other sport like it. No other. Its dangerous and most get next to nothing but the promoters get paid and handle to money. Contracts, lawyers, sanctioning fees, entourage, blah blah blah...ITs endless. I can imagine a promoter losing some money on a prospect. At its most basic level these boxers go nowhere without some well established boxing promoting power. Once a boxer gets somewhere the promoter is cashing in and by that time---like Ward--the boxer doesn't understand what the promoter does not thinking they deserve shit while they bleed and fight while white jews read and write.
On the flip side there are people fighting and training for the love of the sport or lifestyle trying to do some good with people who are doomed statistically speaking.
I'd like to know why FLoyd won't deal with Arum. (if anyone knows spill it...I guess I can Google it)
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And Floyd is not robbing the fans with his refusal to do certain fights? No Sergio even though he was willing to move down. No PW, prime Cotto or even Margo when he whipped Citron twice. This was all in his very own division. Now he refuses to fight Manny. I understand he has a chip on his shoulder. But he shouldn't let it get in the way of potential great fights.
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i cant remember ever seeing manny throw a short right hook or a right uppercut EVER!
